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Ramana Advaita : A Clear Brief

 In Maharishi Ramana’s own words …

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What is reality ? 
You are the supreme reality to yourself – the Self, the I that remains the same, still and silent, awake and aware, through your wakeful, dream and deep sleep states in life, from birth through death. 

Clearly, it is not the ego-being that waxes and wanes with its happy and miserable experience. 
You are awareness. Awareness is your another name. Since you are awareness there is no need to attain or cultivate it.

Your present knowledge is due to the ego and is only relative. Relative knowledge requires a subject and an object, whereas the awareness of the Self is absolute and requires no object. 

People want to see the Self as something new. But it is eternal and remains the same all along. They desire to see it as a blazing light etc. How can it be so ? It is not light, not darkness. It is only as it is. It cannot be defined. 

When a man realises the Self, what will he see ? 
There is no seeing. There is only being. The state of Self-realisation, as we call it, is not attaining something new or reaching some goal which is far away, but simply being that which you always are and which you always have been. 

All that is needed is that you give up taking the not-true as true. All of us are regarding as real that which is not real. We have only to give up this practice on our part.

At one stage you will laugh at yourself for trying to discover the Self which is so self-evident. There is no seer there to see anything. The seer who is seeing all this now ceases to exist and the Self alone remains. 

For those who live in Self as the beauty devoid of thought, there is nothing which should be thought of. That which should be 
adhered to is only the experience of silence, because in that supreme state nothing exists to be attained other than oneself.

It is false to speak of realisation. What is there to realise ? The real is as it always is. We are not creating anything new or achieving something which we did not have before. 

The illustration given in books is this. We dig a well and create a huge pit. The space in the pit or well has not been created by us. We have just removed the earth which was filling the space there. The space was there then and is also there now. Similarly we have simply to throw out all the age-long samskaras [innate tendencies] which are inside us. When all of them have been given up, the Self will shine alone. 

Liberation is our very nature. We are that. The very fact that we wish for liberation shows that freedom from all bondage is our real nature. It is not to be freshly acquired. All that is necessary is to get rid of the false notion that we are bound. When we achieve that, there will be no desire or thought of any sort. So long as one desires liberation, so long, you may take it, one is in bondage.

If you remain as you are now, you are in the wakeful state; this becomes hidden in the dream state; and the dream state disappears when you are in deep sleep. You were there then, you are there now, and you are there at all times. The three states come and go, but you are always there. 

It is like a cinema. The screen is always there but several types of pictures appear on the screen and then disappear. Nothing sticks to the screen, it remains a screen. Similarly, you remain your own Self in all the three states. If you know that, the three states will not trouble you, just as the pictures which appear on the screen do not stick to it. On the screen, you sometimes see a huge ocean with endless waves; that disappears. Another time, you see fire spreading all around; that too disappears. The screen is there on both occasions. Did the screen get wet with the water or did it get burned by the fire? Nothing affected the screen. In the same way, the things that happen during the wakeful, dream and sleep states do not affect you at all; you remain your own Self. 

There is only one state, that of consciousness or awareness or existence. The three states of waking, dream and sleep cannot be real. They simply come and go. It is the seer who says these come and go. The seer and the seen together constitute the mind. See if there is such a thing as the mind. Then, the mind merges in the Self, and there is neither the seer nor the seen. So the real answer to your question is, `They neither come nor go.' 

What is the difference between the mind and the Self ? 
There is no difference. The mind turned inwards is the Self; turned outwards, it becomes the ego and all the world. Cotton made into various clothes we call by various names. Gold made into various ornaments, we call by various names. But all the clothes are cotton and all the ornaments gold. The one is real, the many are mere names and forms. 

But the mind does not exist apart from the Self, that is, it has no independent existence. The Self exists without the mind, never the mind without the Self. 

Brahman is said to be sat-chit-ananda. What does that mean ? 
Yes. That is so. That which is, is only sat – truth, being. That is called Brahman. The luster of sat is chit – consciousness, knowledge, awareness; and its nature is ananda -- bliss. These are not different from sat. All the three together are known as satchidananda. 

If a man thinks that his happiness is due to external causes and his possessions, it is reasonable to conclude that his happiness must increase with the increase of possessions and diminish in proportion to their diminution. Therefore if he is devoid of possessions, his happiness should be nil. 

What is the real experience of man ? Does it conform to this view ? 
In deep sleep man is devoid of possessions, including his own body. Instead of being unhappy he is quite happy. Everyone desires to sleep soundly. The conclusion is that happiness is inherent in man and is not due to external causes. One must realise the Self in order to open the store of unalloyed happiness.

Existence is the same as happiness and happiness is the same as being. The word mukti – liberation, freedom -- is so provoking. Why should one seek it ? One believes that there is bondage and therefore seeks liberation. But the fact is that there is no bondage but only liberation.

Parable of ten foolish men ...
The ten foolish men in the parable forded a stream and on reaching the other shore wanted to make sure that all of them had 
in fact safely crossed the stream. One of the ten began to count, but while counting the others left himself out. `I see only nine; sure enough, we have lost one. Who can it be ?' he said. 

`Did you count correctly ?' asked another, and did the counting himself. But he too counted only nine. One after the other, each of the ten counted only nine, missing himself. 

`We are only nine', they all agreed, `but who is the missing one?' they asked themselves. Every effort they made to discover the `missing' individual failed.

`Whoever he is that is drowned', said the most sentimental of the ten fools, `we have lost him.' So saying he burst into tears, and the others followed suit. 

Seeing them weeping on the river bank, a sympathetic wayfarer enquired about the cause. They related what had happened and said that even after counting themselves several times they could find no more than nine. On hearing the story, but seeing all the ten before him, the wayfarer guessed what had happened. 

In order to make them know for themselves they were really ten, that all of them had survived the crossing, he told them, `Let each of you count for himself but one after the other serially, one, two, three and so on, while I shall give you each a blow so that all of you may be sure of having been included in the count, and included only once. The tenth missing man will then be found.' 

Hearing this they rejoiced at the prospect of finding their `lost' comrade and accepted the method suggested by the wayfarer. While the kind wayfarer gave a blow to each of the ten in turn, he that got the blow counted himself aloud. `Ten,' said the last man as he got the last blow in his turn. Bewildered they looked at one another. 

`We are ten,' they said with one voice and thanked the wayfarer for having removed their grief. 

However often Bhagavan * teaches us, we are not able to understand. 
* reverential address, meaning God 

People say that they are not able to know the Self that is all pervading. What can I do ? 
Even the smallest child says, `I exist; I do; this is mine.' 
So, everyone understands that the thing `I' is always existent.

What is the ego-self ? How is it related to the real Self ? 
The ego-Self appears and disappears and is transitory, whereas the real Self is permanent. Though you are actually the true Self you wrongly identify the real Self with the ego-self. 

How does the mistake come about ? 
See if it has come about. 

One has to sublimate the ego-self into the true Self. 
The ego-self does not exist at all. 

Why does it give us trouble ? 
To whom is the trouble ? 
The trouble also is imagined. Trouble and pleasure are only for the ego. 

Why is the world so wrapped up in ignorance ? 
Take care of yourself. Let the world take care of itself. 
See your Self. If you are the body there is the gross world also. If you are spirit all is spirit alone. 

It will hold good for the individual, but what of the rest ? 
Do it first and then see if the question arises afterwards. 

Is there avidya [ignorance] ? 
For whom is it ?  For the ego-self. 
Yes, for the ego. Remove the ego and avidya is gone. Look for it, the ego vanishes and the real Self alone remains. The ego professing avidya is not to be seen. There is no avidya in reality. All sastras [scriptures] are meant to disprove the existence of avidya. 

How did the ego arise ? 
Ego is not. Otherwise do you admit of two selves ?

How has the unreal come ? Can the unreal spring from the real ? 
See if it has sprung. There is no such thing as the unreal, from another standpoint. The Self alone exists. When you try to trace the ego, which is the basis of the perception of the world and everything else, you find the ego does not exist at all and neither does all this creation that you see. 

It is cruel of God's leela (play) to make the knowledge of the Self so hard. 
Knowing the Self is being the Self, and being means existence, one's own existence. No one denies one's existence any more than one denies one's eyes, although one cannot see them. The trouble lies with your desire to objectify the Self, in the same way as you objectify your eyes when you place a mirror before them. You have been so accustomed to objectivity that you have lost the knowledge of yourself, simply because the Self cannot be objectified. 

Who is to know the Self ? Can the insentient body know it ?  All the time you speak and think of your `I', yet when questioned you deny knowledge of it. You are the Self, yet you ask how to know the Self. Where then is God's leela and where is its cruelty ? Because of this denial of the Self by people the sastras speak of maya, leela, etc. 

Does my realisation help others ? 
Yes, certainly. It is the best help possible. But there are no others to be helped. 

That will take some years. 
Why years ? The idea of time is only in your mind. It is not in the Self. There is no time for the Self. Time arises as an idea after the ego arises. But you are the Self beyond time and space. You exist even in the absence of time and space. 

All books say that the guidance of a Guru is necessary. 
The Guru will say only what I am saying now. He will not give you anything you have not already got. It is impossible for anyone to get what he has not got already.

I see you doing things. How can you say that you never perform actions ? 
The radio sings and speaks, but if you open it you will find no one inside. Similarly, my existence is like the space; thou this body speaks like the radio, there is no one inside as a doer. 

I find this hard to understand. Could you please elaborate on this ? 
Various illustrations are given in books to enable us to understand how the jnani can live and act without the mind, although living and acting require the use of the mind. The potter's wheel goes on turning round even after the potter has ceased to turn it because the pot is finished. In the same way, the electric fan goes on revolving for some minutes after we switch off the current. The prarabdha [predestined karma] which created the body will make it go through whatever activities it was meant for. But the jnani goes through all these activities without the notion that he is the doer of them. 

It is hard to understand how this is possible. The illustration generally given is that the jnani performs actions in some such way as a child that is roused from sleep to eat eats but does not remember next morning that it ate. 

It has to be remembered that all these explanations are not for the jnani. He knows and has no doubts. He knows that he is not the body and he knows that he is not doing anything even though his body may be engaged in some activity. These explanations are for the onlookers who think of the jnani as one with a body and cannot help identifying him with his body. 

You are Bhagavan. So you should know when I shall get jnana. 
Tell me when I shall be a jnani. 

If I am Bhagavan there is no one besides the Self - therefore no jnani or ajnani. If otherwise, I am as good as you are and know as much as yourself. Either way I cannot answer your question. 

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Equality : Misdirected Clamour

It began with calls to establish the sameness between paupers and kings : strip the latter of his wealth and privilege and give to commoners their certified crowning. It hasn’t made people shine with the glory they brought down. And it has not prevented the rise of kings in other guise; they just might have so much more in their legally protected inheritance, or be better endowed with intelligence, perseverence and patience, abilities and skills. Call it divinity or chance, but the modern kings attain to their privileged status as much by heavens as the kings of yore did. In a way, the contemporary ones are more real kings : their blessedness is transparently deserved, in their capacity to lead, manage, discover and innovate, adding greater value to humanity possession.

Yet most quotes and statute entries aspire, and the clamouring left-lib-seculars in the street demand, and UN framework insists, that people be treated equally, that inequality is a measure of social injustice, and law courts routinely assure equality to all. All this, while we actually see how partisan the judges and court registries are in favour of the rich and affluential, how the street leaders retire to their luxurious abode and fares on their table, and the entire UN edifice is subject to dictates of the powerful on its board.

The truth is that “equality,” as a value in our legacy and especially in our current context, is a mere ideological imposition, without concord with reality as is evident in nature and in human diversity. On closer look, it transpires in our understanding that it is ‘inequality’ that better reflects the truth within this existence, essentially drives the economy and powers prosperity, and holds the most potential for humanity to excel at evolving into better form of itself.

So, where might “equality” actually have a place in our values system ? It is largely essential to our spiritual well being, to regard others as of equal value to their selves as we have for our self, and actually respect all beings everywhere, keeping them equally in our compassion. In material ways, all community assets and opportunities should be equally available to those who need or aspire. And we should govern ourselves, as a people, such as to maximise these common assets and create more open opportunities for people.

The same discussion replicates for gender equality militancy. It makes no sense for females to twist about their clittoral prick and for men to warp over feeling like a vagina. Instead, both have a need to become better human beings by the very natures they respectively have. There is more to their being than the crotch and the loin.

 

India, UPA Years…Damned !

I am aghast of this information. During its 5-year term, central govt enabled release of ₹ 43 trillion in the economy, if this message on Twitter is true. The cumulative GDP through those years should be less than ₹1000 trillion. Though 5% of the national transacted value, these money were not lent against valuable collaterals and the lenders had no intention of turning over the amount through economic processes at their end, earn it back from value delivered into the economy, and honourably liquidate their debt.

No wonder, the inflation rate during the period hovered around 10%, making the middle class poorer and hitting the weaker sections especially hard.

And the leader of Congress Party, which gave us the hell, says, “PM Modi must stop blaming the Congress Party for India’s economic ills !”

Damn. Damn…

AlgoFace

This is my mail to support@facebook.com, which returned undelivered with info that the recipient was not found, that the domain facebook.com did not exist ! 

😂

Mail Text

You are making it impossible to download my info.

That, I suspect prima facie, may not be random.
Your security check has two options, friend pics and phone text.
Why not email ?
The friend pic test presumes I have personally met the online friends, especially while your algo fetches FB contacts I have barely interacted with.
You phone text code is never received.
Why not have a call up option, as all websites have ?
And, back to first, why dont you security check through email ?
Can all of it be random ?  
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Incidently, I cannot even access my account, ostensibly because I have not passed their security check.

Vedanta : Truth Of Truths

Vedanta is for us to live meaningfully and more fully, in truth. The Vedanta perspective reducts from our knowledge of the reality of being, our own at first, extended in the three Great Spaces, in the experience of being in our five sheaths, and in our three states — waking, dream and deep sleep. The perspective shows to us the way to that enveloping, infinitely transcendent immanence which itself projects and permeates this living, breathing, pulsating reality we are privileged to embody, experience and witness.

Read on …

Journal : India, My Readers, And My Work…Life’s Full !

Yes, as we move into the autumnal world of golden sunshine, in between pourings of the receding monsoons, its quicker evenings and shorter days, I have been occupied with work. The roller coasting weather through the summer and rains, and now as we enter the festive season, fills me with that sense of privilege I have while I am in conversation with life. It is wonderful and happy. Period.

Oh, I hear the grating opposition in politics everywhere, the climate callers, PETA and femlibbers, public howlers upon every act of human failure, the Left sliding south through its war against mainstream commoners… Ah, I hear all that all the time and yet, despite empathies where it merits, I see no cause to cook myself in any buzzing outrage or in occasionally roaring exhilaration.

This is what living in India today means to me, four years after May 2014 : a privilege, wonderment, hope and happiness. People have their weals and woes, imperfections rule, fraudsters and criminals are still active, violaters of women’s dignity and ordinary folks have their way…even while we have in office a government that is works.

It is clearly thwarted from several directions, by people who contribute little and destroy much : vacuously boiling political opposition, left ecosystem and urban naxals, misgoverning regional satraps, ivory tower judiciary, precultured self-servers in scores of diversely identified communities and bureaucratic groups of one kind or other. I take it all as the 2018 normal, layered over the gamut of classic aberrations that humans naturally secrete. It is not going away in a hurry and I suffer along with others.

But that does not prevent me from choosing to look at the admirable works of this government around me and feel the flutter of gladness and hope in my heart. I will elect them again and again, despite the dissatisfactions they leave me with from time to time.

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I am putting up this post after a while and there is much on my mind : you, me, my work, India, China, Islam, Taiwan and Pakistan.

I just got the first thing in the list gush out and now, to you dear Reader : Thank You ! There are enough of you in India and very many in places I have never visited, including some I know very little about. The feeling associated with that awareness, of you on practically the entire planet, is indescribable.

Keep safe. Choose happiness. Pursue prosperity. Hatred for US President Trump is an irrational thing in the face of performance data and economic indices and success of this administration’s honest initiatives in managing global hotspots.

India is surrounded by countries that are populous, weak or poor, mis- or in-adequately managed, which leaves vulnerable to China’s “win or lose” influences. The country has friends in the West and beyond, in East and Southeast. One nation it has long time but low key association with is Taiwan. Their delegations are alway dubbed as cultural or trade and business but not political because of fierce Chinese hegemonistic policy that is acknowledged and globally ceded to.

I find Taiwanese culturally mature, innovative and industrious. They are great people to have as friends and there is no reason why the diversity they present should not be embraced and allowed to flourish. I hope India gives them something to smile, strengthen and cheer up.

China is a nation fronted by the Communist Party, quite as Pakistan is one that is backseat driven by the military. They both keep their people on the margins, screened and used or misused. In China, they have created a shining facade over censorious armed battalions, ready to strike. Its administrators abhor diversity. It administrators fear people who live and think or believe differently. To them Islamic, Christian and Buddhist ways are illnesses that need to be cured. Subscribers to these religions are repressed in order to suppress and discourage their viability within the Chinese State-managed society. Even considering that Muslim and Christian proselytising ambitions do queer and skew the neighbourhoods in unpleasant and rather unacceptable ways, acts of violence against them will only make the bugs mutate and turn up their resistance.

Pakistan is a theocratic state and does even worse to non Muslim residents in the country. It needs an IMF bailout fir the umpteenth time. China might already entered an impoding spiral of its own, with banks and institutional NPAs amounting to trillions of US dollars while its debt trapping assistance to other countries has still a long way to go. For both Pakistan and China, Trump afministration policies might end up placing the last straw on the camel’s back. That would be tragic overall with disastrous fallouts across their borders.

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The first cut of my work, SORO USHA – A Millennial Work, is over. The second, finish round is now on. It is a long and tedious job that might not end before December-end this year. I am aiming to reduce the number of pages and improve its readability, especially considering its subject matter.

Please visit the Work focused site @ sorousha.net for extracts I have posted. It will the place where the pre-order and ebook publishing will be be announced after the marketing plan is etched.

Thank you for keeping up and the patience.

PS : Incidentally, the Work at first had 200.000 words in 700 pages, which now trimmed to 155.000 and 600 now.

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The Vedic Nature of Spirituality

To be true, it is a major operation upon our self, to cease the habit or addiction and “move on.” It will take an awakening, as out of an intensely sticky dream, to keep constant watch and apply brakes timely, bring out through suffering those karmic impressions that inexorably effect the disposition under watch, again and again, before the karma repository would clean up in clear gaze. Both the suffering and perseverance through the wait need moral strength to prevent quitting prematurely. That takes a major personal evolution, in truth, which yields a more adequate and complete understanding of ourself and our conviction. It brings us to the Vedic nature of spirituality.

via The Vedic Nature of Spirituality

The Master : A Profile

In a world where men are failing by millions, robbing and denying others and turning predators because they cannot steer themselves away, the Master is an evolved representative of humankind. He is not a freak or one of its kind being. He sees the same things but not the same way; he does the same as others but never without a mind on the cosmos. And his ego sense rests deep on the conscious substratum on which the entire inner phenomena is supported, even through this constant knowing and associating, being and becoming, which threaten to preoccupy him…

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Relationship : Of Love — Truth Within, Shines Without

The movement is actually from relationship of love, however it might have hitched far back in time, to love free of relationship.

This isn’t an instant type of advisory, or a suggestion of any kind. It is about a movement that takes a lifetime to happen. That is, if you have trusted yourself through its roller coaster, top and tumble passage over time.

To be able to love without a sense of relatedness takes a huge leap of personal evolution, from being this little Maslowian ego-self to being a divinity unto yourself.

There is a relationship while we are in love. But it is just a start, when there is more of ourself in it. No, when it is all for ourself; even what we do for the other is only because we cannot stop having all that we are getting out of it, for ourself. It […]

via Relationship : Of Love — Truth Within, Shines Without

What Really Matters…

It’s not, never, the things, beings or people, that matter.

It is always your relationship with one or a few of them, how you relate with them, how the relatedness began, tumbled, changed, then deepened over time. That’s what matters, in truth.

It’s the relationship that will leave you empty or fulfilled.

Mind it.

Here’s a link to expand much that we need to understand about relationships, the Eastern way.

Muslim Terror Flows From ‘Holy’ Quran

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament, the verses of violence in the Quran are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.

Muhammad’s own martial legacy – and that of his companions – along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.

via Muslim Terror Flows From ‘Holy’ Quran

Today’s Liberals Scream For Freedom Without Factoring In The Responsibility…

“What we do have is a right to know,” says DeNicola. “For example, you can certainly demand to know what the taxes on petrol and diesel are. That’s why there is a right to information. But knowing is not the same as believing. Everybody learns in school that Earth is round and revolves around the Sun, but there are many who choose not to believe it for religious or other reasons. Just as we know that all people, whether white or black or brown, are equally human, but some refuse to believe it.”

“Even the idea that your beliefs are your own is flawed, for beliefs are often handed down families, or acquired from the influence of peers or persons in authority. For instance, the belief that spending long hours in office increases productivity. While you can’t help being born into a flat-earther family and learning that Earth is flat, the problem arises when you persist with this belief even after getting a masters in planetary science.

“It is rather the sustaining of such beliefs, the refusal to disbelieve or discard them that can be voluntary and ethically wrong.”

via Today’s Liberals Scream For Freedom Without Factoring In The Responsibility…

In The Family…

Atharva Veda 3.30.02

The son follows

In his father’s steps

And is of a mind

His mother shares.

 

No idea how many arguments and controversies would be bounced off this Vedic advice. Or, is it just a statement of fact as it prevailed then ? I do not know. All I see is a cleverly stated cultural practice that keeps the father proud, mother happy, and the home in peace.

“I Need A Wife.”

“Surely, Joseph, you don’t want me to say it. The Scripture mentions such forbidden things. People might think your interest was—personal.” He looked at his hands and then hid them quickly in his pockets as though to keep them from hearing what he said.

“Ah—” Joseph puzzled. “They might say—I see.” His voice turned brutal. “They might say I felt like the bull. Well, I do, Burton. And if I could mount a cow and fertilize it, do you think I’d hesitate ? Look, Burton, that bull can hit twenty cows a day. If feeling could put a cow with a calf, I could mount a hundred. That’s how I feel, Burton.”

Then Joseph saw the grey, sick horror that had come over his brother’s face. “You don’t understand it, Burton,” he said gently. “I want increase. I want the land to swarm with life. Everywhere I want things growing up.” Burton turned sulkily away. “Listen to me, Burton, I think I need a wife. Everything on the land is reproducing. I am the only sterile thing. I need a wife.”

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My, My ! This Blog…

Looking into the stats pages of this blog, I am thoughtful… over 850 posts, close to 170,000 views by about 111,000 visitors, without commensurate likes and comments. None of which makes any difference to how I relate with this blog’s presence in the web world.

There are just two impressions that arise when I think on the phenomenal matter : one, an average of about 70 views the blog attracts everyday; and, two, I have practically exhausted the drives with which I wrote every other day on topics ranging from eternal matters to timely issues. The posts which are most viewed on any random day are never the most recent; they are old, from as early as 2012, the second year after the blog’s start.

Am I exhausted ? Hell, no. It is my drives that pushed me to post on the blog have. I still write but mostly in a book that never seems to end. I am in no hurry to see its published form, quite as I have never had the least interest in making the blog more popular than it is or making it pay for the effort it took from me. The blog is fine as it is and the book is too, even in its unfinished state. The only rush I feel is on account of my rapidly approaching moment of final departure. But, well…  err… ahem… It is so damned fine right now !

One of the most satisfying aspect of this blog, as in a kid’s delight, is its reach. It has a reader in practically every country on earth ! Now that is something. Yeah, this sense of the connect I then have…whoa. Like, when earth peaks up and breaches into the sky !

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Indian History : Between Ridiculous Historians And Honest Record Keepers

Megasthenes also mentioned the country’s caste system, more in terms of profession, status and personality descriptor. But the problem from an Indic perspective is that very little of the Indika survives in tact today and we are left with second hand accounts of Greek historians. In fact McCrindle, in “Ancient India as described by Megasthenes and Arian,“ says that the Greek writers such as Megasthenes were not highly regarded and were prone to lying. Strabo was of the opinion that Megasthenes simply created fables and as such no faith could be placed in his writings. In Strabo’s own words : “Generally speaking the men who have written on the affairs of India were a set of liars. Deimachos is first, Megasthenes comes next.”

Diodorus also held similar opinions about him. So who and what should we believe? It was Dr. Schwanbeck who, we are told, had collected all the fragments that were extant at that time, and who finally comes to the conclusion that Megasthenes can be largely vindicated of the charge of mendacity (that was leveled at a host of other Greek historians).

The Greek records mention Xandramas and Sandrocyptus as the kings immediately before and after Sandracottus. These names are not in any way phonetically similar to Mahapadma Nanda and Bindusara, who were respectively the predecessor and successor of Chandragupta Maurya. However, if Sandracottus refers to Chandragupta “Gupta”, Xandramas could be his predecessor Chandrashree alias Chandramas (the last of the main dynasty of Andhra Satavahana Kings) and Sandrocyptus to be Samudragupta. The phonetic similarity becomes quite apparent and other supporting evidence too confirms the identity of Sandracottus with Chandragupta Gupta. The correction also settles the ridiculous start of Vikram Era from 58 BC, while Vikramaditya himself is placed about four centuries later !

The Puranas transmit the Hindu tradition and historical records to successive generations. In fact we are told in the Mahabharata that ‘the Vedas are afraid of him who has not studied the Epics and the Puranas, for he would indeed kill them with his ignorance of the truth propounded in them.’

The Puranas are a class of literary texts, all written in Sanskrit verse, whose composition dates from the time of Veda Vyaasa, who lived at the time of the Mahabharata War. The Puranas are regarded by some as the Veda when studied under a magnifying glass. The word “Purana” means “old” and in fact Panini assigns the meaning “complete”( cognate with purna). Generally they are considered as following the chronological aftermath of the epics, though sometimes the Mahabharata, which is generally classified as an Itihaasa (history), is also referred to as a Purana.

Some scholars, such as van Buitenen, are inclined to view the Puranas as beginning around the time that the composition of the Mahabharata came to a close. Certainly, in its final form the Mahabharata shows puranic features, and the Harivamsa (appended to the Mahabharata), wherein the life of Krishna or Hari is treated at some length, has sometimes been seen as a purana. The special subject of the Puranas is the powers and works of the gods, and one ancient Sanskrit lexicographer, Amarasinha, regarded by some as a Jain and by others as a Buddhist, reputed to be a courtier of Vikramaditya, defined a purana as having five characteristic topics, or pancalaksana :

  • The creation of the universe, Sarga;

  • Its destruction and renovation, Prati-sarga;

  • The genealogy of gods and patriarchs, Vamsa;

  • The reigns of the Manus, forming the periods called Manavantaras;

  • The history of the Solar and Lunar races of kings, Vamsanucharita.

No one purana exhibits in detail all five of these distinguishing inclusions, but some reagrd the Vishnu Purana as most close to the traditional definition. Vyasa composed the Puranas in 400,000 “Grantha”. A Grantha is a stanza consisting of 32 syllables. Of these, the Skanda Purana alone accounts for 100,000. It is perhaps the world’s biggest literary work. The remaining 17 Puranas add up to 300,000 Granthas. Apart from them, Vyasa composed the Mahabharata, which contains nearly 100,000 Granthas.

via Indian History And Its Historians

Face To Face With The Ageless Yogi

Devraha Baba was … called, “The Ageless Yogi.” Nobody knows for sure how long he lived – at least 200 years, but probably much longer. The first President of India, Dr. Rajendra Prasad stated that his father had sat at the feet of Devraha Baba as a child in the middle of the nineteenth century, and Devraha Baba was already elderly at that time. An Allahabad High Court Barrister had stated that seven generations of his family had sat at the feet of Baba. One legend has it that Devraha had blessed Tulsidas (1532 – 1623). Devraha Baba himself allegedly claimed that he has lived for over 700 years.

Baba was observed staying under water unaided for half an hour. He also allegedly could be in two places simultaneously and understand the language of animals, control wild animals, heal people by his look or word, and tell the future.

Most importantly, he and the legends about him were not myths : people had met him, spent time with him, heard him speak. They were backed by people with impeccable committment to truth !

via Face To Face With The Ageless Yogi

These Are Heartwarming !.

I’ve written “In Trump I Trust.” Many do not. I have no problem with them provided they are civil about it and do not peddle proppaganda, lies and half truths, in their desperation to convert others. Robert De Niro was not civil in his speech at Tony’s; he was drunk and his opposition to the US Prez in office was all passion, without any truth.

Trump has trumped over Kim Jong during his summit meeting in Singapore. His success is stunningly tall by far : North Korea has agreed to denuclearise. Yes, denuclearise ! All Trump gave in return was sucurity guarantees and cancellation of war games with South Korea. Considering that Obama regime had supplied arms to AlQaida, through Hillary Clinton foreign office channels to rebels at Benghazi in Libya, Trump’s success seems as sublime as Obama’s was vile.

Two reports from India are as heart warming : one, the central banker Urijit Patel’s firm and clear stand before Parliament panel on Nirav Modi scam and, two, Soumya Swaminathan’s blunt refusal to play in Iran. Patel made no bones about the responsibility that Public Sector Banks, such as PNB, had in ensuring good governance and preventing $ 2 billion scams through its branches. It also pins the failures squarely on the finance ministry of the Federal Govt, which owns and manages the enterprises. “RBI cannot audit a hundred thousand bank branches in the country,” Patel said. He also said, the central bank had no power to appoint and remove bank chiefs nor of summoning or superceding their Boards. Nothing could have stated the hazy and muggy state of affairs in public sector banks and in the union government’s oversight of their management. Patel put the accountability where it appropriately belongs : the authority !

Soumya’s refusal to play chess in “headscarved” Islamic is a victory of global free spirited women over the abominy which prevails in Khomeni’s Iran. It is not the first, too, from India. Earlier, Shooter Hina Sidhu had also turned down an opportunity to participate in a prestigeous international event in Tehran.

Compared to the lizzy bizzy feminists in the West, or suave English-speaking West-styled rights and entitlements screaming females in India, Soumya’s clear stand shines the warmth in my heart notwithstanding her loss of an important occasion as a sportswoman. Her solidarity with hundreds of thousand of Iranian women, protesting against oppressive ways of the Islamic regime, glows in its own firmness.

What a heartwarming day, indeed !

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After millennia a Tradition is Reborn | IndiaFacts

Such is Banswada, a small town in Rajasthan. It was here that a whole recension of the Rig Veda has been discovered, thought to have been lost for centuries. Here, on the border of Gujarat, are two septuagenarians who are the last two living reciters of the Shaankhaayana Shakha of the Rg Veda…

The primary corpus of the Vedic trove are the 4 – Rig, Yajur, Sama and Atharvan. Each of these Vedas has multiple recensions, called shaakhas. Patanjali in his Mahabhaashya mentions 1131 recensions in all – 21 Rig Veda Shaakha, 86 of the Krishna Yajurveda, 15 of the Shukla Yajur Veda, 9 of the Atharva Veda and 1000 of the Sama Veda.

Each shaakha, to be considered complete – is composed of 4 parts

  • Samhita – the core collection of hymns
  • Brahmana – An expansion of the hymns and some description of the rituals that these hymns are intended for
  • Aranyaka – Philosophical excursions into the inner meaning of the mantra and associated ritual
  • Upanishad – Pure philosophical discussions.

However, this is not a water-tight definition. The Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, for example, contains descriptions of certain rituals.

Different families are required to specialize in different shaakhas, so that the task of memorizing and preserving the text is shared among many people.

Now, to the subject of ritual. Ritual manuals have been composed for grihya and shrauta rites. Grihya rites are the household rituals, starting from the garbhaadhaana ritual before a child is conceived, to the seemantonnayana ritual for pregnant women, to the choula ceremony at the time of the first tonsure of a child, the upanayana or beginning of studies and so on.

More complex are the shrauta sutras – manuals composed for the performance of major rites. These rites mainly take the form of fire-sacrifices or homa/havanas. These rituals (or karma, literally meaning ‘something done’ or ‘activity’) are organized into

  • Nitya karma – to be performed as a duty, with expectation of no reward
  • Kaamya karma – performed with certain benefits in mind

Of the nitya karma performed in the shrauta fashion, they are further divided into 21 rites

  1. 7 paaka yajnas (literally cooked sacrifice) – simple rituals performed at home, such as the aupasana, vaishvadeva rituals
  2. 7 havir yajnas (literally burnt offering or oblation) – more complex rituals, which can be performed at home. These requires the tretagni – or 3 rituals fires permanently burning for the householder. The well-known agnihotra rite is the primary one, to be performed every day by the householder.
  3. 7 soma yajnas – the most complex rituals, which involve the offering of the famed soma juice. These are simply the most complex ritualistic behaviour ever recorded anywhere among human beings, such the intricately choreographed atiratram, which is a 12-day non-stop performed, continuing through the night (hence atiratram).

Ritual manuals are allocated to different shaakhas and regions. The Bodhayana and Apastamba Shrauta Sutras, for example, are designed for Krishna Yajur Veda and the Baashkala or Aashvalaayana Shakhas of the Rig Veda.

Sutras, by their very design, are concise and cryptic in their brevity. They were designed for easy memorization and transmission.

They are further elaborated upon by commentators, and the commentaries are called Bhashyas.

Of the extant shaakhas, the Aashvalaayana Shaakha of the Rig Veda is the best preserved and has most practitioners in the South of the Vindhya mountains.

In the North, the given book of Shrauta is the Kaatyayana Shrauta Sutra, whose related Yajur Veda rescenscion is the Vajaseyani Samhita of the Shukla Yajur Veda. The associated Sama Veda rescenscion is the Kauthuma Shaakha. The Kauthuma Shaakha, again, has 2 recitation styles, called paddhatis (literally ‘procedure’) – the Madra paddhati, and the Gurjara paddhati. The Madra paddhati (which originated in the Madra region, said to be the Ravi-Chenab doab in Pakistani Punjab), is well preserved among the Sama Veda reciters in the South. The Gurjara paddhati, however, has no more than 10 experts left, almost all of them resident in Kashi, prominent among them being Shri Sharat Joshi.

The Rig Veda shaakha associated with the Kaatyayana Shrauta Sutra is the Shaankhaayana. This was thought to have been lost, save for a rare text published several decades ago.

This brings us back to our tale… Read more at the link below.

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